also, wasn't she divorcing Jozseph Because he LIED and said that He would not hurt them if she and Judith Left?
What a Jerk!
I hope he is have a terrible time in hell!
Yes, he was a jerk, but he was also an abuser, a manipulator, domineering, liar, child and wife hater, coward, and a cold-bloodied murderer. The man's a worthless POS Bastard, among many other things, and I'm so glad he's being TORTURED and ROTTING in HELL!!
Post by nancybratt on Sept 5, 2008 21:53:14 GMT -6
Maria did everything she thought she should. She thought she was doing the best for Judith by getting the side apartment. They were going to leave Jozef in the middle of the night without him knowing. Altho he found out by the suitcases. Maria DID like the things that Judiths fame bought her, but with the last check she was waiting for(the IRS one) she was going to move into the apartment permanently with that. A lot of people dont realize that. And Maria was scared of him. He was overpowering, ungreatfull and a burly man.
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Maria did everything she thought she should. She thought she was doing the best for Judith by getting the side apartment. They were going to leave Jozef in the middle of the night without him knowing. Altho he found out by the suitcases. Maria DID like the things that Judiths fame bought her, but with the last check she was waiting for(the IRS one) she was going to move into the apartment permanently with that. A lot of people dont realize that. And Maria was scared of him. He was overpowering, ungreatfull and a burly man.
Nanny, A while ago Katie found a National Enquirer from Aug 1988 featuring an interview with Tracey Gold, and with Darrin's help, I was able to get it, and almost immediately after I received it, I called Darrin up, and was going over the article with him. The article mentioned in it the IRS check Maria was waiting for, and also the apartment name and number that Judith & Maria were staying at during the day, to which Darrin looked up. So I knew they were wanting to leave, and very soon, just didn't know it'd been at night. I bought the best scanner I could afford, and scanned the article here, you can find it in the "It's Here" topic thread, and also, Darrin posted a thread about the apartments under the "Her Apartment Escape" thread. And the next day, I mailed to Darrin the National Enquirer via Express, and made sure it was nicely packed so nothing would happen to it. I sent it to him because I know he'd take extra good care of it, and I was scared that I'd lose it, and if I did, I would find it very hard to forgive myself. And I HATE Jozsef with a passion, and I'm glad he's getting what he deserves in Hell.
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Post by gjscroggins81 on Sept 17, 2008 16:36:30 GMT -6
Maria did what she thought was best for Judith and herself. I believe, that if Jozsef never saw the luggage, that they would've escaped. Rest in peace Judith and Maria , we love you and miss you!
She was in that scary, abusive relationship for so long. I'm sure she tried to do what she could, but victims of that kind of abuse are convinced by their abusers that there's nowhere to run and no one will believe them. She took a huge step by filing a complaint. So many victims never even get to that point.
It's interesting that CPS didn't do enough because now, critics say that CPS goes too far into people's personal lives, yet back then, they clearly did not go far enough.
Maria truly believed Joe had underworld connections and that had she left him with Judi he'd have had them killed. In hindsight they should have left anyway as they died regardless.